Curse

Trance Addict · Mar 03, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Just not Necro minions.

Tsunami Rain · Mar 03, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

you sure about that? did you get the patch update?

Trance Addict · Mar 03, 2006, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Yes, I am sure. The pic was taken a few minutes after the update, as shown from the IWAY skill description (25% instead of 33%).

zoozoc · Mar 03, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08

yes, they didnt change it in the nerf. They only made it so it didnt work agains minions, thats all. Really they changed enough so that iway is still a viable build, but is much easier for a good hoh team to own it.

thunderpower · Mar 03, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19

yes... it doesn't apply to dead minions... but what the heck... read the others updates and realise they lost much of their power

Bloodweasel · Mar 03, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Well really what matters when reading the description is weither or not the 'friend of my friend is my ally' or in this case, if the pet of my ally is also my ally....

'Cos MY pet is MY ally. Your pet is your ally. It doesn't have to mean that YOUR pet is MY ally...

An 8 man team gives a max of 8 allies reading the rules my way - 7 other players and your own pet. It makes there not so much of a priority to have all the IWAY Warriors with pets, as it only adds to their own ally count, not the whole team.

Manic Smile · Mar 03, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41

i hope that was a joke ^

Mar 03, 2006, 08:46 AM // 08:46

rofl .

Sol_Vie · Mar 03, 2006, 08:48 AM // 08:48

Yeah someone informed Gaile of this. She's passing the information along. Hopefully it will be fixed.

Murder In China · Mar 03, 2006, 08:49 AM // 08:49

The update notes about IWAY IS correct though. It's not counting dead Bone minions.

Gonzo · Mar 03, 2006, 09:22 AM // 09:22

As I've read it in the update threat your own pets will still be afected by IWAY just not the pets of your party members.

antialias02 · Mar 03, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

They made changes to other skills that will effect Iway. (Orders, Heal party). Also, the fact that you rez at no adrenaline helps.

fenix · Mar 03, 2006, 10:37 AM // 10:37

hehe a whole heap of low level minions and you would have I Will Avenge You! forever. I hope they are planning on fixing it, because at the moment there isnt much of a change to IWAY. As long as the Orders necro knows what he's doing, it's easy to keep using OoV.

Grimm · Mar 03, 2006, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodweasel

Well really what matters when reading the description is weither or not the 'friend of my friend is my ally' or in this case, if the pet of my ally is also my ally....

'Cos MY pet is MY ally. Your pet is your ally. It doesn't have to mean that YOUR pet is MY ally...

An 8 man team gives a max of 8 allies reading the rules my way - 7 other players and your own pet. It makes there not so much of a priority to have all the IWAY Warriors with pets, as it only adds to their own ally count, not the whole team.

Uh...you're overanalyzing this. Things that are "green" are "allies". Things that are "red" are "enemies". Doesn't get much simpler.
"Ally" means party members, pets, allies, npcs, spirits, whatever, as along as its name and radar dot is green.

Grimm · Mar 03, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Noone said the IWAY skill would not be affected by pets. It says "allies", after all. IWAY teams is no longer just about the skill IWAY.

Johnny Paycheck · Mar 03, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51

i still don't understand why people don't just build teams around 2 ele's using ward against melee and ward against foes to cripple IWAY builds? can anyone clear this up for me?

Lykan · Mar 03, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Wow finally an end to all the Iway MF team running rampant in HA!!

/yes it was sarcasm, this is the dumbest skill update ever!

Mandy Memory · Mar 03, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

The adrenaline rework was the big nerf to IWAY.

Banebow · Mar 03, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandy Memory

The adrenaline rework was the big nerf to IWAY.

Quoted for truth.

Though I think the orders reduction will hurt iway a good deal as well.

Ole Man Bourbon · Mar 03, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

The Lt's Helm nerf should hurt IWAY as well.